# How to scale a developer relations team

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## Summary:&#x20;

* Principles for building developer programs and strategy.
  * **Feedback.**&#x20;
  * **Community first.**&#x20;
  * **Diversity and inclusion.**&#x20;
* **Four Pillars to scale your DevRel Teams**&#x20;
  * **Team**
    * Personas&#x20;
    * Type of Role
    * Expanding Globally and Scaling
    * Pipeline for DevRel Hires
    * Org your DevRel is a part of.&#x20;
  * **Outreach**
    * Know what are developers that are most relevant for you.&#x20;
    * Online channels.&#x20;
    * Influencers and community managers.&#x20;
  * **Operations**&#x20;
    * Vendor partners as an extended team
    * Swag&#x20;
  * **Feedback**

## Scribbles:&#x20;

* &#x20;If you get unlimited resources and a budget...
  * Probably bad news for your company because they’re not being thoughtful about how they are investing and the floodgates are literally open.&#x20;
  * Doesn’t really focus one to innovate as it should be.&#x20;
* **What is really scaling?**&#x20;
  * Preparing the ground for the next wave of growth.&#x20;

### Principles for building developer programs and strategy.

* **Feedback.**&#x20;
  * Dev rel traditionally has been an outward-focus function.&#x20;
  * There needs to be two-way advocacy.&#x20;
    * Need to be able to take the developer feedback and bring it back to the Product & Eng Team.&#x20;
* **Community first.**&#x20;
  * If you’re able to do it the majority of the time, that itself is good news.&#x20;
  * Did you have influence in your Product & Eng Teams to block a product launch if you think that launch is not going to be beneficial for your developers?&#x20;
  * If you have strong signals and feedback that the product is not ready, are you able to make that call?&#x20;
  * When you are sharing content for meet-ups or events among your developer community, is that the content that you and your Product & Eng Team want to push out?
  * Focusing on the needs of the developer community really helps you win their trust in the long run and that really pays back also in business value.
* **Diversity and inclusion.**&#x20;
  * Important -- developer community that we’ve worked with and engage are also representative of these developers that we want to eventually engage with.&#x20;

### Teams&#x20;

* What kind of personas exists in the DevRel world?&#x20;
* What kind of roles exists?&#x20;
* **Developer Advocate** is a much more common word being used now.&#x20;
  * Folks who go on stage.&#x20;
  * The ones that go at events.&#x20;
  * At meet-ups and talks.&#x20;
  * Go behind the camera and record talks -- share more scalably
  * Public face for your developer programs and your platform.&#x20;
* **Community Manager**.&#x20;
  * Very quickly, if your product is starting to get traction, there will be a community that will build around it.&#x20;
  * Folks who are helping swags for meet-ups, helping buy pizza for the hackathon.&#x20;
  * Helping run events if your company has to run those first-party events themselves.&#x20;
* **Other roles** -- Developer Program Engineers, Developer Advocates are going and talking about the vision of the platform, getting people excited.
* **Specialized roles like Developer Program Engineers exist.**&#x20;
  * In many companies, especially if the dev rel team is fairly small, Developer Advocates will be doing the same responsibility.
* **Tech Writers.**&#x20;
  * Call-to-action.&#x20;
  * Inspiring someone with a key message.
  * Experience that that developer website has is key.&#x20;
  * Having a really solid technical writer team is important.&#x20;

#### Expanding globally and scaling.

* Dev rel teams typically get started wherever the host organization is based but then very quickly realize.&#x20;
* The challenge is hiring leaders in these key hubs who can really grow your dev rel presence over there.&#x20;
* Focusing on hubs.
  * Figuring out the demographic that works best for your program and needs.&#x20;

#### Pipeline for DevRel hires&#x20;

* Where do we hire for Dev rel?
* Traditional interview formats of either hiring for a software engineer role doesn’t really help.
* LinkedIn
  * You look at people with dev rel titles, that pool is growing.&#x20;
* Software engineers in your company who are keen
  * Offer them a rotation opportunity or a short-term project for them to explore dev rel as a practice.&#x20;
* Hiring some of the community managers from the broader developer community that your org. works with.&#x20;

#### Which org is your DevRel part of?

* Doesn't matter which organization your dev rel team is part of.&#x20;
  * The obvious ones are marketing.&#x20;
  * Irrespective of where you are, you can be successful if your dev rel organization.
  * Use your influence to land your dev rel team where you would be most comfortable with.&#x20;
  * If you strongly think that your dev rel team should be part of marketing, make that pitch early on.&#x20;

### Outreach

* That number around 20 million has not shifted in the last five years.&#x20;
* Know what are developers that are most relevant for you.&#x20;
  * Are you really engaging with developers that are relevant for your platform?
* Online channels.&#x20;
  * Events are very expensive, expensive on time, expensive on resources.&#x20;
    * Don’t give you a channel to constantly engage with your developers.
  * Explore online channels.&#x20;
    * Helps you get a lot more traction.
* Influencers and community managers.&#x20;
  * Identify key influencers and community leaders in those markets and build relationships with them.
  * Reach a lot more developers than a traditional channel will probably offer you.

### Operations&#x20;

* Dev rel is a job that requires a lot of travel for example.&#x20;
* Vendor partners as an extended team
  * Are you booking all your travel yourself or is there someone, a vendor or an agency who can help you?&#x20;
* There are organizations that can help you.&#x20;
* **Swag.**&#x20;
  * Procblem when we have swags being produced centrally, not headquarters. And we’re trying to ship it worldwide.&#x20;
  * Way too expensive if your developers are in emerging markets.
  * Shipping cost.&#x20;
  * Producing locally.&#x20;
    * Has a positive impact on the environmental footprint.&#x20;

### Feedback&#x20;

* A key part of the developer ecosystem, the work that we do is gathering developer feedback.&#x20;
* This is an area where sometimes it’s okay to not focus on scale.&#x20;
* Face-to-face conversations where the developers were sharing their pain points.&#x20;
